#480: Jenni Catron — You're Hitting Your Goals. But Are You Losing Your People?

Nov 10

What if you're achieving everything you set out to accomplish—but the people you're leading are paying the price?

In this episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger sits down with leadership expert, author, and consultant Jenni Catron for an honest conversation about performance, purpose, organizational culture, and the responsibility leaders have to the people they influence.

Jenni knows the tension between driving results and developing people. Early in her career, her ambition and desire to prove herself often overshadowed the relationships around her. It took a courageous mentor—and some difficult lessons—to help her recognize a truth that would reshape her leadership: People are the point.

But putting people first doesn't mean abandoning accountability or lowering expectations. Jenni shares how leaders can create healthy cultures that value both relationships and results, why our behavior often communicates more than our words, and how to recognize the blind spots our teams may be hesitant to address.

Tony and Jenni also explore the personal side of leadership, including the pressure to constantly produce, the importance of healthy rhythms, and the challenge of believing our worth isn't determined by our accomplishments.

In this episode, you'll discover:

Why achieving your goals doesn't necessarily mean you're leading well.
How ambition can unintentionally damage the people you're called to lead.
Why your team's experience of organizational culture may be very different from yours.
How your everyday habits communicate expectations, even when your words say otherwise.
Why honest feedback requires humility, vulnerability, and intentional conversations.
How to balance relational leadership with clear expectations and accountability.
What Jenni's four dimensions of extraordinary leadership teach us about leading holistically.
Why healthy self-leadership is essential to building a healthy team.
How to separate your personal worth from your productivity.
Why the greatest measure of leadership may be the people who thrive because of your influence.

Coaching Question

If you asked your team what it's really like to be led by you, would their answer match the culture you believe you're creating?

Connect with Jenni Catron

Jenni Catron is a leadership author, speaker, and consultant who helps leaders build healthy teams and thriving organizational cultures through her work at The 4Sight Group. She is the author of The 4 Dimensions of Extraordinary Leadership and other leadership resources.

Website: https://www.get4sight.com/

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