#109: Dr. Peter Bellini: 10 Ways to be Filled with the Holy Spirit
The resident pastor of the podcast - Dr. Bellini - gives us ten practical tips to be filled by the Holy Spirit. Dr. Bellini brings the heat!
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Tony: Welcome back to the reclamation podcast, where our goal is to help you reclaim good practices for faith and life. I'm Tony, and I'm excited to be your host for the podcast today. We are a ministry of spirit in truth. For more information, check out the spirit and truth podcast network at spiritandtruth.life.
Today's episode one oh nine and I get to have on the pastor of the podcast, Dr. Pete Bellini, Dr. Bellini has been instrumental in forming my theology around the holy spirit. And today we give you 10 ways to be more filled with the spirit. That's right. We do 10, very practical, very real life things that we can do to be filled with the holy spirit.
And I love this dialogue because one of the things that I've seen in scripture so much lately is what it means to be spirit enabled. In other words, what does it mean to be full of the holy spirit and to live a life with that power of the living? God as our backdrop, as our soundtrack, to who we are.
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Peter.
Pete: It's like the Bulls.
Tony: Or the new look Lakers. Yeah. Ooh. Lakers or bulls, who are you going with?
Pete: Oh, I got to go Lakers over bulls. I'm neither one, but I got to go Lakers cause you're a Cleveland fan, right? Yeah. And I kind of adopted a little to Lakers because of LeBron. I know some did. Sure. Yeah. I'm still pulling a little further.
Tony: I am too. And, and what I love about you and your hearts is that you are a man who is passionate about the holy spirit. And so in our first conversation, we kind of did some holy Spirit's stuff. And our second one, we did a little Q and a and and, and you've actually. Really helped form a lot of my theology on the holy spirit.
So I am so excited about our dialogue today, because we're going to talk about what it means to be filled with the holy spirit. And we're going to get practical. So start off with a little bit of explanation when somebody says filled with the holy spirit, what does that mean?
Pete: Right. I mean, that's just the it's ambiguous.
What do you mean by everyone has their own little picture. You know, someone may see someone swinging from the chandeliers at the church and go, oh, that's what you do when you're filled with the holy spirit or, or someone speaking in tongues or someone is quiet and contemplative like a monk in the desert, or what do you mean by being filled with the spirit?
Well, I guess it there's a lot of ways one could look at it. If I'm filled with the spirit, I'm close to God and God's spirit is so in me. Even experientially that he's in control of my life and you and I can see it. And you could see it by the fruit. That's manifested love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness, faithfulness, meekness, temperance.
The fruit that comes from the spirit that lets me know that the spirit is present. That's his harvest. Those are the signs. The evidence that you are spirit filled is we can see God's fruit. And all of those words love joy. Peace are not just abstractions. They're actually practices and behaviors. Like for example, the word love first Corinthians 13 tells us if we have God's love it, does it through kind of the via negativa, but it says am positive.
It says love is patient love is kind love. Doesn't keep a record of wrongs. Love. Doesn't always defend itself. Love believes the best about people. You know, love is not easily irritated. So those are all actions. So I'm not just loving in word. I'm loving indeed. So ultimately practice. So you'll be able to tell, and this is John Wesley, if you're spirit-filled because God's spirit bears witness with you, you know, and other people know, and they know through the fruit.
You don't know, through the fruit.
Tony: Okay. So you're filled with the spirit. If you've got the fruit and you can see it and it's tangible and it's real life. But I think that there are a lot of people who are listening. A lot of Christians who are like, you know, I've heard about the holy spirit and every once in a while, once a year on Pentecost, my pastor preaches about the holy spirit and all of that happens.
And yet they, they can't quite get to the practical application of how do I get filled with the holy spirit. And so today you've got a list for us and 10, 10 kind of 10 words practices.
Pete: Yeah. Amen. Amen. There's 10 things. I think you can do to be more filled with the holy spirit. And I'm not saying that we kind of do these and we like.
We, we pride the holy spirit from God's hands. I just feel these are practices that if you want to be where God is, sure. Didn't go here. Right.
Tony: I love that this is proven throughout your ministry. You've done this, right? Like, I mean, we're not taught you. Didn't like. Make this up yesterday and then walk in and be like, oh, Tony, I want to talk about this.
No, no, that's not it at all. These are practice methods to kind of get through that. Oh, okay.
Pete: Kind of distilled over a lot of years in ministry, I've been in ministry over 35 years and...
Tony: almost as long as I've been alive.
Pete: And you know, looking at the, the, the, the great spiritual masters of the church tradition, a great tradition and glean from them.
And there's probably more, but these are the biggies. Oh, I love it.
Tony: I love it. Okay. Let's, let's start with number one.
Pete: Okay. The first one is almost counterintuitive. And so I'm going to give a word that's kind of like maybe a device to click what the, what, you know, what I want you to focus on the first word is Jesus.
So it's kind of counterintuitive and that is in order to be spirit filled. You need to be Christ focused or Christ centered. Now that may seem like obvious, but if you look at a lot of churches that claim to be charismatic or spirit-filled, they always insist on focusing on the holy spirit first, and I think they're missing something here and it sounds counterintuitive here, but if you want more of the holy spirit actually focus on Jesus because in John 14, 15, and 16, it talks about the holy spirit primarily does not focus on himself.
Ah, we have churches that are focusing on just the holy spirit. We may have churches that are disconnecting in a, in a way that's not natural. The, the triune God that the spirit doesn't bear witness to himself, but he bears witness to Christ who bears witness to the father. So the holy Spirit's primary job is to bear witness to the person and work of Jesus.
So if people focus on Jesus, fall in love with Jesus. You're going to end up running right into the holy spirit because it's the holy Spirit's job to mediate that whole relationship between you and Jesus. You're talking his language. The Spirit's work in God's mission is to bear witness to the son, not to himself.
So we want to be, and here's my last point, and this is where it gets specific. Be intentional, precise, and meticulous about Jesus is Lord ship in every area of your life. So the best way I can worship him is sure I could focus on Jesus throughout the day. I could focus on him in my prayer life. I can make sure I go to church on Sunday and focus on them.
But though I think the best way I could focus on Jesus is to worship him in obedience with my life. And that is to surrender everything to Christ. In my life, make him Lord over every area, especially controversial areas, my money, my sex life, my free time. My Paula only the blood of Jesus can save your politics or whether you're blue.
Tony: Oh, that's so good. So good. Well, I, yeah, I, you know what? I wouldn't have started with Jesus, but that's but, but I mean, maybe that's the problem, right? Most of us don't want to, when we talk about the holy spirit, we don't start with Jesus, but the holy spirit started with Jesus. So it just makes, I guess that makes a lot of sense.
Pete: Okay. So what could happen there though? If we focus only on the holy spirit solely, we could start to focus too much on our own experience and we start to navel gaze and go, oh, I haven't spoken tongues. I haven't done this. I haven't done that. And it's about me going to church on Sunday to get my next experiential fix.
And so my focus is totally off kilter when it should be on him. And my relationship with Christ because the spirit, his primary role is to broker that relationship. So he's like, ah, you're talking to and talk to Jesus. You talk in my language, you talking directly about the holy spirit. I don't bear witness to myself.
So if you're making a big fuss about me, you may be into yourself more than you're interested in. Relating to the one who
Tony: I'm pointing. Yeah. It seems like there's a temptation to try to make the holy spirit like Netflix. Right. We can just dial it up. Right. If Jesus is Lord, then we don't get to dial up.
We don't have right. We don't have that vessel mentality.
Pete: And I say that not as one because there may be listeners to go, oh, well, he doesn't understand the holy spirit. Like I do. If he understood the power of holy spirit, the gifts of the holy spirit friends out there, I understand it. I'm charismatic as they come I'm as care as maniac as the next guy or gal out there, I operate in all the prophetic gifts and all the gifts of the spirit.
I understand. I know all that. I'm proficient in it. And it's out of all the years of that, I've seen the shortcomings in churches and myself to know you're always a safe bet to put it all on Jesus. Amen.
Tony: So take us to number two.
Pete: Number two scripture lay ago, be immersed in the scriptures. They are written by the spirit.
So, you know, you're getting holy spirit. There's Theo new starts there. God breathed that book is not a, an ordinary book. It's not just a human book. It's it's not just a good book, you know, gone with the wins, a good book. This is, they say, oh, they call the Bible. The good book. Have you read, gone with the wind?
They say, it's a good book. well, I can say crime and punishment, but just ask is a good book. But this book is a living book. It's the living word of God breathed that spirit breathe. And like Jesus says in John five, it testifies of me the scriptures point, Tim. So ultimate course going back to Jesus again, but it's the scriptures, the written word that points to the personified living word Jesus.
And so when we read the scriptures, we're getting the aroma of the spirit because the spirit. Breathe and inspired the scriptures. The spirit speaks to the language of scripture. He was breathed in and through the writers of scripture. So we want to be aware again, of exalting our experience over scripture.
So we want to pray for a hunger for God's word, so that we have a scriptural basis for all that we are in do. And we're, we're following that sure rule so that if we do have powerful experiences of the holy spirit, we get test them by the word to make sure that they bear witness with the word. And not just something that, you know, we ate pizza too late at night.
Tony: Sure, sure. Now, D does it matter where we start with scripture? Like, I mean, I know there are a lot of people who are listening, who are like, You know Dr. BI I've been trying to read scripture my whole life, and I just can't seem to like, man, I always get my Bible in a year. Playing always gets destroyed at Leviticus.
Like w where do we start with scripture so that it can point us back to the holy spirit.
Pete: You know, there's so many different ways to approach this. And the first thing I always tell people is get a readable translation for you. Like the
Tony: NLT, the new living translation. That's a good way to go.
Pete: The new living translation is a good readable translation.
I recommend it to people. It's a well translated, I believe from the original texts. Lot of those persons that helped translate were some of my professors. So I trust the new living translation. It's good to read it with some commentaries, of course, and, and maybe some other resources alongside some Bible handbooks and whatnot.
If it's really rough for you, you may want to start in like the gospel of John or first John or Romans, but usually the gospel, John first, John, if it's something that's between. Tough for you. And you may want to start any in, in, actually in a group to ask questions. You know, a group that your church is offering, where you have a, you know, you have an instructor there and you can ask questions.
And then from there though, you want to take time daily. You want to take it some time in the morning and time in the evening to just chew on a little piece of scripture. You don't have to read a lot. I usually read small, small little portions, but I want to make sure that I really chew it, chew it and, and get it, get it really I don't know, like w where it's really digestible if you will.
Tony: And so it's going to stick and I'm going to be able to, I was listening to Rick Warren on a podcast the other day, and he said, I want it to be the first word that I see in the morning. And the last word I read before I go to bay, man, I thought, I thought, first word, last word. I couldn't remember it.
Pete: Right. And you wake up with it then, right? My dream with it. So our experience of the spirit is real. And true when it's aligned with scripture and it's Christological, meaning Jesus is in the center. Again, it points, points back to him. So for pursuing more to holy spirit, excuse me, we go to Jesus. We go to the scripture, but we got to take time to seek the scriptures and to learn, to enjoy them and pray for that hunger and that enjoyment spirit wrote the scriptures.
And so, you know, he can guide you and lead you in understanding them. So I usually pray before I read, Lord, help me. You wrote this book, spirit of God gave me enlightenment, helped me to understand it and were understanding it. Not for information only. I'm not reading a science book. I'm not reading a history book though.
Some may argue has Porsche. It has aspects of that in it. It's a theological book and I'm reading it to obey and worship him primarily. So spirit of God, show me what I need to know. And as one of my old friends said, scriptures are like a mirror. Hmm. And it's even from James, it talks about the laws as the, as the perfect the laws, like as a mirror that we, we look into and it looks back at us.
So when we read the Bible, the Bible's reading us, come on it all of a sudden, when I'm looking at God's word God's words, gone, putting a finger on things, showing me things going. Yeah, my word says this, but here's where you're at. Oh, wow. Yeah. So I'm looking at a mirror and I'm seeing the way I am where James says.
So we got to make those alterations less. We walk away and stay the same and deceive ourselves. So we got to not be heroes. We got to be doers that goes back to the whole Hebrew Shamar, which is the word means. It means here with the intentions of obeying here, what the intentions of obeying. So when you start to hear God's word with the intentions of obeying, you will understand it differently than someone who's taking a course in religious studies at a secular university to maybe trying to disprove that this is, you know, that these passages or books were written by Paul or whomever.
That's good. That's really good. I love that. Number two scripture, right? Number three, number three, holiness.
Tony: Now you're going to have to really define that word for us because I think we're man, I, I don't know that I see much holiness in the world. Well, yeah.
Pete: I don't know if I can help with that.
Tony: Yeah.
You're the holiest thing in this office. I guarantee so holiness.
Pete: In a simple census to be like, God. And specifically that means to be like,
Tony: Jesus. Okay. So that goes back to our Christology, right? Going back to, he goes.
Pete: Go, go figure Jesus is in the middle of all of this go figure that he said, I'm the alpha and I'm the omega.
Yeah. You can't get away. The Jesus is all in all like Ephesians one 10. It says in the end, he'll be all in all. So a holiness here means to be like, like Jesus let's have, let's pray for a hunger and a passion and seek holiness there. We'll find the holy spirit. Why I love to say this. Holy is the holy Spirit's first name.
Tony: Ah, I see what you did. That's like a dad joke with the holy spirit.
Pete: You're don't I was going here and I didn't want to these.
A lot of people don't realize that even though it sounds like just a generic title, the name holy spirit is the words. Holy spirit is really his name. He has a lot of names in scripture, but we baptized in the name singular of the father, son and holy spirit, one God, three persons, holy spirit is his name in this case.
Holy is his first name. Why? Because he is holy and he makes whoever's close to him. Holy. So if you desire your holiness, then you will attract the holy spirit because he's holy, just in the same way. When we, when, when, when we rub elbows with things that aren't holy right. God seems to be a little further away from us.
Tony: That's funny. Yeah. When I was drinking, I don't drink anymore, but when I was drinking, I don't even remember at the end of the night going, man, God felt close to me.
Pete: Right, right, right, right. I never feel that when I'm doing something on. Right.
Tony: I wonder if that's connected.
Pete: So what does one do? I would just encourage you to seek true repentance and a hunger and thirst for righteousness, which means repentance, just a, a strong word.
Metanoia. It means change your mind, such that it changes the direction of your life. In other words, if I'm going down a road and that road is called. I'm doing my own thing. That's sin. I've been down that road. Yeah. We were always tempted to go back on that road. Repentance is we, we come to a stop sign where God says, you're going the wrong way.
You need to take a U-turn and my grace allows it. Now you got to go back down that same road, the opposite direction. You've got to face everything that you were doing before face it, and keep going in the same direction towards God. Hmm, God, because God doesn't take us out of this world. When we get converter, we come to Christ.
He's not going to just, you know, remove us from every opportunity of temptation and whatnot. We're going to go through stuff. You're going to walk down that side. Robert, you're going in a different direction instead of you calling your own shot, you're getting off that path. And now instead of being self-centered you're God-centered so that's basically what repentance is a change of orientation and direction.
And so I'm, I'm telling, I'm asking full cure. When you quest for holiness, seek to repentance, pray to God. I'll give you a hunger and thirst for righteousness. Blessed are those that hunger and thirst for righteousness for they will be filled. He answers them. He will fill you with righteousness and I'm reminded of Hebrews one nine, where it says Jesus the Messiah hated sin, but loved righteousness.
Maybe be like Christ Lord and have a holy hatred for sin and a divine love. For what you think is what you see as right. Pray to see God's holiness and that he would impart it to you because it's not about us doing good deeds. That makes us holy. Yeah, I can't, there's nothing I can do Tony and my capacity.
That's going to make me holy. Like the eternal, holy God. I may look good in someone else's eyes was more wicked in me. Yeah. But in God's eyes, I fall short and then I could only be like him when I draw close to him and he imparts himself on to me, it's a gift. Yeah. Holiness is a gift. So I invite people to consecrate yourself fully to God when you're in times of parents saying, Lord, I want to be like, Jesus.
And I want you to come and search me and show me the areas where I'm not. And put your hand on those and give you the grace, to be honest with these things and give it to you. Sometimes when I give things to God, it's gone immediately. Sometimes me and God are having a tug of war with it for a while.
Sure. I give it to him and I don't trust him. I take it back. God, you know, I think I need to worry about this a little more before I give it back to you. I think I need a lot more. I think I need to handle this cause, you know, Lord, I know a little more than you do and we, we, we, we have a give and take with God until finally we yield it to him.
We surrender it to him. So holiness will attract the holy spirit and we're merely talking about being like Christ.
Tony: Well, and I love the idea of repentance, right? Because it's something that we can always do whenever we don't feel wholly. Like there's always a path back to holiness bathroom, back to righteousness, through repentance and and you know what Christ did on the cross, right?
Pete: Is again, that's always the good news that all of our listeners need to hear friends sometimes holding. This is a scary word because we think, oh God, so holy and I'm so unholy. That's true, but it doesn't work that way. Merely God is holy, but God is a good and gracious and loving God. And he gives us opportunities.
When we've sinned, not one, two or three hundreds of opportunities when we've blown it to keep coming back to him, he looks to our heart broken heart, a contrite spirit. You will never deny.
Tony: Well, one of the most frustrating things for me as a pastor, when somebody walks in on Christmas or Easter and you know what they're going to say, right?
They're going to say, oh, I hope I don't get struck by lightning. I'm like, man, the scripture just has nothing to support that at all. Right. And more like more like God's thrown a party that you're bad. Come on. Let's get all the fatted calf.
Pete: Right. You're back home, big party. We've been waiting for you. We love you.
Yeah. That's God's attitude. Okay. Number four, number four. Presence. Presence.
Tony: Not, not like under the tree presence.
Pete: Yeah, no, though. You could look at it as a gift, but I'm talking about P R E S ENC presence. This is for church leaders, pastors be presence based over program-based in your life in ministry, port the presence of God.
First Israel learned to let God go. First. He came in a pillar of cloud by day, a pillar of fire by night. But Moses said, if your presence doesn't go with us, Lord, I'm not moving. I'm not going. Yeah. Moses recognized that it was about the presence of God above all. Why did Moses know that? Because he saw the presence of God.
He saw the glory, he saw the theophany in the burning Bush. He saw the backside of God's glory. He said, there's no substitute for it. And for people that are in the presence of God and experience, God's holy beautiful. Powerful loving presence. There is no substitute. There's no church growth program or strategy that could substitute for its second best programs are important.
Planning's important. Strategies are important, but they take a second. At least placed to the presence of God. And so we need to create in our churches, in our homes and in our hearts, Tabernacles cultures that attract the presence of God did that goes first. That's why we're here. Lord, we're here for you above all.
So I feel that, you know, there's no quick easy shortcuts or substitutes, no programs or formulas we got to get in God's presence. And we got to have expectation and cultivate the presence of God, let life and ministry flow from our encounters with God, be mindful of his presence everywhere, and always especially take time to soak in his presence with worship and Thanksgiving.
And here's an important one. Very important one, be around people who are spirit-filled. The holy spirit is taught, but in some mysterious way, he's more caught than taught. You just, sometimes there's a contagion. When you're around someone that's freshly filled with the holy spirit, it is contagious like a fire.
It just spreads. If you're flammable, the holy spirit will spread. And who are the people that are flammable. You may take the holy people know the people that are dry, things that are drier, more flammable, people that are hungry, thirsty, and dry. Get in the presence of the holy spirit with a hunger and a thirst.
And you will burn.
Tony: Yeah. Well, I mean, one of the things that I loved about growing up Catholic was the practice of Eucharistic adoration. And in, in in that practice, if you've never heard of that term before you actually just go sit in the sanctuary and stare at the tabernacle and they pulled the Eucharist out and it's this beautiful because in the Catholic church, they believe that is Christ.
Right? And so Christ is in that moment. And so basically you sit there for an hour or two, or when I was in Germany, we did one for 12 hours at night, right. It was out, it was all night Eucharistic adoration, and it was, it was a profound soaking. And I've never like especially now being present is something that we struggle with with all the media and the technology.
So, I mean, presence makes a lot of sense to me. How do you see churches doing this? Well today?
Pete: I see ways they don't do it well, and that is when they put an agenda ahead of waiting on the Lord. We make up a bulletin in, God's got to show up somewhere in that agenda bulletin, or he's not showing up at all.
I understand some Sunday services, people aren't ready for that, but you should have some sort of a service, which is a service that is just allows us to be in his presence. Like you said, to contemplate the sacrament because whatever denomination you are, at least at some level, you believe that God is present in that sacrament.
So whether it's a sacramental. Yeah. So one of the thing of presence, or just understanding the presence of the holy spirit in a tangible way, when we begin to worship him, cause it says, scripture says God habits dwells Tabernacles in the praises of his people, is his praise becomes a tabernacle. It's a tabernacle war.
He says, I will come. And I will sit upon that. The arc, that lid. That Kippor that covering the covering being Jesus, the atonement sacrifice back to the spirit and Jesus again together. So I think when churches allow for services that are free and open to just soak in the presence of the Lord, just have prayer services, prayer, and pray services where there's no agenda, but to just come and worship him and soak in his presence, that is where that happens best.
You could do that in your own house, but I see it working powerfully of churches that allow. To take time. It takes time. There's no, you know, this is new year's resolution. I'm going to start exercise. And in three days I'm going to be bluffing and it ain't, you can't do that. You exercise, I exercise it's a long time and the gym is grueling hours or thinking that you're going to get a relationship with someone, a spouse or anyone, you know, just like that.
love is tough, man. Love is commitment. Love is discipline. Same thing with the Lord. We want to get more to holy spirit. You got to take the time necessarily like you doing the gym, like you cultivate with your, your wife taken time. To relate, to communicate, to spend time alone, to, to, to cultivate intimacy.
And the problem is in the day we live in now, everything fights against it. And so when, when people have to go into their prayer closet to hear God or talk about these soaking services, I'm talking about, it has to go against the grain of so much stuff. That's already in their mind that the circuitry, the neural networks in their brain are always pedaled to the metal, go looking for some sort of sensation, you know, to maybe know if their phone wants to be pet, you know, every second where we think our phone is calling us, even when it isn't sure is hard to create, to reverse a lot of that stuff.
That's going on in our, in our neurophysiology to slow down. So more than ever, people can't slow down today. And this is a good way to do that and it's necessary, or you're never going to find that deep. Quiet intimacy with the Lord because he's not in the earthquake. He's not in the storm. He's not in any of that.
The, the, the loud clamor, instead of still small boys, I was whispering. I said, he's in a, still small voice, unless you're real quiet. You can hear it. Yeah.
Tony: Yeah. I love it. That's so good. Okay. We're half halfway through number five.
Pete: The next one is faith. By the way.
Tony: I wish you guys could see how much Dr.
Bulemia is, is sweating. As soon as he's preaching to us, I'm here for it. I'm here. And I know, I know my listeners are too, so thank you for your, your passion.
Pete: I love it. I feel like I'm at the pulpit. I love it. Number five, faith. Sorry. I can bring my preacher's cloth with me. I'm a preacher sweat, right?
Right. Five is faith. Make faith, your primary. Instrument for knowledge, for those who are more academic, make fate, your primary epistemological instrument, for those who aren't as inclined to understand what those big 57 words mean, make faith, your primary instrument of knowledge. What do I mean by that?
Reason is essential, but it's meant to be subordinate to faith. We're justified by faith and not justified by reason. Reason is not to be discarded or as Jude, but it's to be put in its rightful place below faith. The major problem here is that we struggle to give up control. We love our control. It gives us security and it begins by walking by our senses.
And our reason not by faith. Faith is we have to let go of those things control as the primary obstacle, I believe to walk and by the spirit we need to give up control in a way scripture calls us to do that is to walk by faith. It's the only way you're going to walk on water. Only way you're going to walk on water because there's no other rationally.
There's no way that you could stand and walk on water. Your reason runs out of ground. At that point, reasonable take is so far, we don't want an irrational faith. We don't want an ignorant faith, but it can only take you so far when Jesus has walked on the water, you're bringing into what to do. Yeah. How are you going to trust the Lord for something that does not seem possible, but as possible for God?
Tony: So if somebody is having a faith issue, right? Like if somebody's, you know, different than holiness or, or presence, right. If somebody is having a faith issue, Where do they start? I mean, how, how do you flex the muscle of faith? Where does that start?
Pete: Scripture talks about it is weird. It says every one of us has been given a measure of faith.
So we, each one of us has a little gift of faith. If you're a believer, you already have it because you believe you came to some point where you believe in Christ. If you're not a believer, you still believe in other things you believe in someone in the certainties of the world, around you have a technology around you, that the sun is going to shine.
We operate by faith more than we think, even in the scientific realm. We're learning that even science is in pure reason that there's a lot of fiduciary commitment to a lot of propositions and visions that come within the scientific program. So faith is a part of who we are. Look at. Faith is trusting is trusting.
You, you, who do you, who and what do you trust in? What do you trust and who do you trust in? Well, we all have, we all have some trust at some level. As believers. And even as unbelievers unbelievers, I'm sure at some level they trust themselves or they trust someone else in their life. So we have a measure of faith.
We need to exercise it. And how do we exercise it? We exercise it by using it by using what little we have, and then we'll be given more. He, you know, if he was faithful, she who's faithful with little more has given to them. So whatever God calls us to do, take that next right step. And in our times of prayer, which we're talking about and getting alone with God, God may be telling you, Hey, I want you to start to trust me more in this area with your finances.
I want you to start trusting me more in your relationship. You've prayed about this thing with your spouse. Now I want you to try not to control it. I want you to trust me with it and watch what I do this week. As you distrust me, what do I do, Lord God. Well, for now, just keep your eyes on me. Think about me throughout the day and just keep thanking me that I've already done it.
There you go. That's what fate does. You know, mark and Mark's gospel have faith in God. If you say to this mountain, be thou removed, be removed, be cast in the sea and you believe in your heart, but don't doubt the things that you say you will have, the things that you've asked for as long as they're biblical.
Of course. So what do I mean by that is when we pray and ask for some that's scriptural begin to thank God already, because you know, God is faithful to do it, even if you don't see it. And so sometimes a practice for me, cause faith seems so invisible. How I make to make it practical is I'm standing on a particular word of God and I'm thanking them for it that it's already done.
No. Okay. So I give him Thanksgiving. Thank you, Lord. That you've heard my prayer. Thank you. That you're already working on that situation. Give me eyes to see and ears to hear the smallest signs in how you're going to be revealing your answer so that I don't miss it. Cause I know what I may want to hear.
And it may or may not be what you show me, give me eyes to see Lord God, and I don't fully get it, but I don't have to because you're in control and I don't want a God that I can understand. Right, right. Or that I can manipulate and control. Right?
Tony: Yeah. I don't trust that at all. Okay. Number six,
Pete: Number six, pray or a prayer and praise.
Prayer and praise. Pray. It's communication with God. Okay. It's a dialogue.
Tony: Well, what about the people who say they don't have the right words? Talk to us. I mean, prep, give us, give us something on that.
Pete: You know, if you know how to talk and eat, if you don't know how to talk, if you know how to communicate, whether either, whether it's writing.
When I first got converted, I couldn't even pray a prayer. I wrote it. The holy spirit said just started writing. It's communicating. God's not interested in the right words. He's not interested in your liturgical vocabulary. If your liturgical theological grammar is correct, he does not care. He understands all languages.
As long as they're the language of the heart, he wants to know what what's what's inside of you. Here's some times my prayer is God, man. I'm pretty upset right now. Right? Well, you know what? God knows. I'm feeling that way. Whether I say it or not. So when I say it, he's like, oh, you're being honest with me.
Cause I conceded. Okay. So be just be real with God and have a conversation with God. Like you wouldn't. So if
Tony: God already knows what we're thinking, why do we need to say it in prayer? Like if, I mean, like that's one of the pushbacks I hear sometimes from my new friend, new believers who are friends, or, you know, like, oh, if God knows everything, then I don't need to pray because God knows what I'm doing.
What what's it's about a relationship.
Pete: Okay. Your wife says, honey, tell me, you love me. Well, honey, wait, I got to tell you, I love you. You know, I love cause I'm scared of her.
Tony: That's what I know. But what does she say?
Pete: Cause I want to hear you say, okay. God, God loves to talk to us. God wants to hear from us.
God wants us fully engaged in the relationship and to, to develop as human beings, as theological creatures that are relating to this divine being, and hearing and giving and receiving from him, it's a relationship. He created us with this mouth so that he can hear us talk and say, daddy, I love you.
Forgive me for my sins. I worship you all these blessing things. There's so many times I know what's in my kid's mind. I could read my kids like nuts. And even now they're older in their late twenties. I could still read it. But I want to hear from them. Yeah.
Tony: That's so good. Well, and I love the idea that it goes back to the relationship, right?
Pete: We serve a relational God relationship and how many of us process at some level we all process life. Understanding through communicating and through a lot of us through verbal, that verbal processing. It's how we process life through communicating. So a lot of times it's for God. And a lot of times it's for you.
Yeah. When I'm praying, because I could hear myself and God just puts a mirror back and he shows me what I'm saying, almost like a divine therapist, if you will. And I start to hear myself and I go, oh Lord, I hear that as I'm praying this, even my prayers. Aren't right. And so I know what I need to repent for now.
You're showing me, you're letting me hear myself. There's a lot of different reasons, but it's a relationship. That's good. No, that's very good. So create opportunities and structures for all types of prayer and praise. If we want the fellowship of the spirit, then we must communicate in the spirit, which is, which is prayer, which has dialogue.
It's hearing. And speaking, especially hearing two ears, one mouth, two to one ratio, man, take twice as much time to listen. As you do to speak, look for both. Look for worship and the, and the entire Christian life and the mission that comes from it to flow from a life of prayer, led prayer and praise with Thanksgiving.
Be your breath, people that do not experience the presence, power and holiness of the spirit, because they do not spend time alone with the holy spirit. It takes time and he inhabits the praises of his people. So make, make that altering your heart. We're we're inviting communication with the Lord because when we pray, we're inviting the holy spirit to come because all of the work that the father, all the work of the father, son, holy spirit do, they're all active in it.
The subjective experience of God in us is the work of the holy spirit. So that's where the holy Spirit's end of it is. So when I'm praying and I actually can hear in my inner heart, maybe God impressing something upon me, what to do or whatever. That's the holy spirit. No, that's good.
Tony: No, I like that a lot.
It makes, it makes a lot of sense.
Pete: You know, I could that, that, that's how it has to be communication. You want to get to know us if you see someone over there, man, I wish I could really get to know that person. We'll go over there and talk to them die.
Tony: I wish you'd tell that to my 15 year old instead of just texting them.
Pete: Right, right, right.
Tony: Okay. I think we're on number seven. Number seven. Oh yeah.
Pete: Number seven, run number seven. Okay. Seven is humility. Ooh.
Tony: I got a feeling you're about to read some people's mail.
Pete: Dr. B cultivate humility is a virtue. Here's the, the amazing thing about humility. James tells us well, first of all, we know as Christians, especially Protestant, Christians, everything we have from God salvation, forgiveness of sins, the gift of the holy spirit, everything comes by his grace.
Everything is by grace through faith, right? It's an unmerited gift that God gives us. He gives us his son, unmerited gift gives us salvation. Our murder gift gives us forgiveness, gives us the gift of the holy spirit unmerited salvation. Yet there's something that could actually attract God's grace, even though grace is God's unmerited favor, James says, God gives grace to the humble.
But resist the prideful. So God's gift is save you. I want to forgive you, but you know what? He can't save you, forgive you. If you're prideful. It literally says he resists the prideful. A lot of people are fighting God and a wrestling. God like Jacob did. Yeah. Until they get broken in, they're willing to surrender.
He gives grace to the humble. So if you want to attract the grace of God, which sounds like a good thing to me, if everything that God gives comes by his grace, then I want more grace. Well, you know what you could do to attract more grace? Well, I can't do nothing. It's unmerited favor. No, you can humble yourself.
James says, if you humble yourself, God will give grace to the humble. It's the one thing we can do to attract the grace of God. The remember the holy spirit himself does not even speak about himself. He speaks about another. So he values humility. He values, humility. The spirit is humble and he's attracted to humility.
God resist a prideful, pray for practical ways in our lives where we could deny ourselves, serve God and serve others. Take time to behold his holiness, which brings kind of like a healthy reverence of the Lord, which brings humility to let, when we take that time alone with God and we're in his presence, we so clearly see God, your God, and I'm not.
Tony: Well, it almost feels like the, the, the six steps that have gone before humility lead us to humility.
Right. Right. Because if we keep Jesus as Lord for the scriptures, we have holiness, we're soaking in the presence. We build our faith muscle. We pray. And then all of a sudden you've got, I mean, if you do the other six it's, it's almost like you got no choice, but to be holy because you see how great God is and how small I am.
Pete: Right. So that's, that's our response. That's a response that was Isaiah's response. When he saw the glory of glory, he got low, Solomon got low in a temple. Woe is me. I'm a man of unclean lips. So you just start to humble yourself. You're recognized, Lord God, you know, I'm in your hands. Be gentle with me. So humility number seven.
Yes. Number eight here, or hearing improve your hearing. Get some drain old for your inner plumbing, man. We got to learn to hear the voice of the holy spirit. He's already speaking. Scripture says he or she, that has an ear and it's not talking about, do you have a physical or obviously a do he or she did has an ear.
Let them hear what the spirit is saying to sang to the church. In other words, not saying, do you have a physical ear, but. Do you have a willingness Shamar to here to obey? Are you really wanting to hear what the spirit is saying? Because the Bible tells us that God is always, I'm a firm believer in this.
People ask me, what's the secret to hearing God. You seem to talk a lot about hearing God. And like, it sounds like you think, you know how to hear God's voice. And a lot of times people Rami say I've seen the gifts. You do know how to hear God's voice. What's the secret. Matthew chapter five says. Chapter four says, man, woman did not live by bread alone, but every word that proceeds present tense means a continual proceeding of God's word from his mouth.
That means he's speaking. We are supposed to be living like our bodies live off of bread and water. Our spirits should be living off of hearing our daily bread in terms of spiritual manner. Hearing from God, hearing him speak. There is a proceeding word coming from the mouth of God regularly. That is enough to sustain your life no matter what you're going through, no matter what attacks you're facing, whether you're facing all hell high water sickness, whatever we're facing in this day and age.
And there's surely enough out there. Take your pick of the pandemic buffet. There's enough craziness going on out there. It doesn't matter what we're facing though. It says that he is greater in us than he that's in the world. If we're willing to hear what he has to say, he's got a word to sustain us in all seasons.
If we're willing. To here, give the spirit, the solid two needed to speak to you and expect to hear specific guidance from God because he, God does speak. He's a speaking God, if God was quiet, you wouldn't see anything. Everything that you see in creation is because God spoke. Wow, let there be light the vibrations of his voice.
From when he said, let there be light more resonate until there's a new heaven, a new earth. If God were to shut his mouth, the light would no longer exist. Everything is sustained by the power of his word because everything is here because God is a communicator. He communicates big things, stars, planets.
He communicates small things, bugs, microscopic organisms, big and small. All of these things are created by God, because he's a communicator, man. God got a lot to say, look out the window. That's all God talking.
Tony: Could you talk to him for me about April snow showers?
I woke up this morning to the snow and I was like, okay, God, what are you trying to say here, guy?
Pete: You know what I think God was telling me when I saw the snow time to move from Ohio time to buy that house in Arizona. There you go. Okay. Number nine, number nine. We're we're almost ready to land the plane.
Number nine, serve, serve, having an open heart to serve others, especially to port a stranger in the outcast. He won't feel you to do nothing. He's not going to feel you just for your own personal enjoyment and satisfaction. No, we will be satisfied when the holy spirit fills us. He doesn't fill us to do nothing.
He fills us so that we will be poured out. Because he will always give you more than you need. I've never walked away from the Lord. The Lord, the Lord feeds me spiritually. My, like my wife feeds me in the natural. If you go to a Sicilian table, you will never walk away from that table. Hungry. My wife will bomb you.
What every kind of food did, you could think of insistently wheat that we have we have first dish. Second is third dish. You will, you, you will, you will be lucky if you could roll away from the table. So good. My cup and my belly run it over. God feeds you spiritually. And you know how it is when God touches you.
When you get in his presence, it's never like, oh God, I just feel walk with so unsatisfied, you are so overwhelmed. Like David, he say my cup run at Dover. Why? Because he gave enough for you and more so that you could pull out. He gave you more because at one for all just you come on. He gave you more so that you could share, read they can pour it out.
You can minister places, he empties you so that he can fill you so that he can empty you again. Be filled at where before does remains be continually.
Tony: Yes. It's not like a, it's not, it's not one stop shopping. Is it? It's?
Pete: No, it's a lifestyle. And it's a lifestyle of being filled by the spirit so that the Lord can use us satisfy.
Yes. Satisfies. But so that we could be a witness, a testimonial witness to who and what he does in the lives of others. Let that light shine go and serve. The spirit loves to seek and save the loss. That's where Christ already is. People go, wow. I want more of Jesus. Cause that's our first thing you want the spirit then focus on Jesus.
Okay. Well where's Jesus. He already told you where he is. Well, where is he? He's with the naked he's with the homeless he's with the hungry he's worked in prison. You want to go over here? Go there. He's there already. And he's going to judge you based on if you were there with him. When was I with you, Lauren?
Well, when you did it, I went to the me studies. You done it under me.
Tony: God, Hey man.
Pete: So you want more to hold it spirit. God, ain't gonna give it for you to do nothing. He's going to fill you so that you can be fruitful and productive. That's why he trims improves the brain. So it'll produce more fruit use.
What I given you first, he even use what I've given you and you want more. But once he sees the drought faithful vessel, that will regularly be poured out into the, the, the, the, the cracks and crevices of the community. He's going to keep doing his old faithful. He's a faithful disciple. He's a faithful transmitter of my word of my spirit.
So I'm going to use him more that keep felling a man, because he just doesn't suck on it and get fat on the couch. He pours it out. He's everywhere. Preaching Sharon ministering. That's what Jesus wants to see our churches do a lot of us charismatics. We just go to church so we can become junkies. We get filled up, get high and want to come back next week for our next spiritual fix.
And God's like, you've done nothing with that, but get fat. Yeah. I wanted you to exercise that off by practicing your faith and exercising your faith by serving people. And I already told you what Jesus is, right? Take your mind off yourself and go serve the least lasted loss. A lot of times people are too into themselves.
I got folk to come to me what issues they have and they're just so self-absorbed. I said, you know what you need to do. You just need to go downtown. You need to go serve at this place. Take your mind off your cell for an hour and think about someone else.
Tony: I always say w we, we have a mutual friend, Jeff Cartwright.
Who's on Xenia avenue, new hope church. And I always say, man, if Jesus was here today, he'd be going to new hope church. I mean, like not to say that Jesus isn't everywhere. Cause he is. But when we think about the people that Jesus hung out with there, would he be hanging out there right there on Xenia?
Yeah. Domino there, right there in Xenia avenue.
Pete: Would what? All Jeff. All right. Number 10. Number 10. Expect their expectation. Oh, that's a good one. Create an expectancy for the presence and work of the spirit, especially the gifts. In ordinary and extraordinary ways and settings expect God to speak to you, expect God to work a miracle through you.
Expectation is the gateway and threshold to the miraculous presence and power of the holy spirit have great expectations for God's spirit to move and show up in you and in the ministry that you serve in an ordinary and extraordinary ways.
Tony: Expectations what's the difference between expectations and entitlement.
Pete: Excellent. Excellent separation. We go back to a lot of things we talked about in some of that would go specifically with the first two and all the way down. I mean, we can, we can expect things that are scriptural and biblical. Okay. We can expect things that are Christ centered Christ doctored in Christ, serving back to our principles.
We can expect God to move in ways that's going to promote Christ-likeness and holiness. We can expect God to move in ways. That's going to validate his presence and emphasize his presence. And so in like humility, that's it. We can exp, but we can expect things that are gonna be substantiated. And under an undergird virtues, like humility, entitlement may be things that works that we, we think that we should have this not scriptural and not in God's will, will.
So awards a lot of times I'll see in a charismatic world, a lot of name it and claim it. Yeah. So I just say that, you know, I claim that as my, so we think, we think we're entitled to some things that are close reading, a scripture and a close examination of, of the nature of Christ. Right. Will not grant us what we think we're entitled to.
Tony: It goes back to that too. That, that same idea that you mentioned, right, is that Jesus has gotta be Lord of our lives. Right? If Jesus is Lord, then I don't get to just say whatever I want. Right. Until there's a natural humility. I mean, again, you just said it, right? Like there's a natural space where expectation is, Hey, I'm a vessel God's going to do, God's going to do.
And what I expect is for God to show up and for me to be surprised.
Pete: Exactly. And we can't control God. It's the same separation like between faith and presumption. Yeah. You can't. I'm from the streets. I'm from the old school, you know, just to use old school kind of language. God's the boss. I'm not right. I can't tell God what to do.
God tells me what to do. And so I don't, I'm not entitled to tell God what to do, but I could find out through scripture and through the things we're talking about, who God actually is, and God's faithful to himself and faithful to his word. So I can have great expectations, not based on my covetousness, in my wanting to control God, but based on who he is.
And then from there, like you said, then it's up to God to show how God wants to do that. I can't tell God what to do. That's magic and witchcraft. I can't control God, but I could have an expectation that God's going to do something special here because man, we're here in agreement by faith, but God give his eyes and ears to see what you do so that we don't miss it because of our maybe human expectations.
Too may not be what you have in mind. You know what I mean? So many times in life, people fall away from God because they misread what God's will and expectations were. And they were merely reading what they wanted. And so God, you didn't do what I wanted. So I can't serve you any longer.
Tony: Yeah, I call it burger king.
God, it's not your way. It's not your way right away. Right. It's gotta be God's way right now. I mean, went down God's time, right? God's way.
Pete: God's time when God's, I mean, I understand for people that have been through serious issues though, and it's easy to misread God, when you go through suffering, when you have you lost a loved one or an untimely death, I understand it's very easy, you know, cause you want them to live in what?
Not to not be able to see what God was doing. And that's why we pray, God give us eyes and ears. And usually we start to see that hindsight to begin to see things the way you see things. Yeah. And so sometimes it can be just someone just being selfish, you know, they want the burger king way and other times it could be, you know, just the, not really selfish, but you know, Lord, I didn't, I didn't want it.
I lost my four-year-old, you know? Yeah. It's not a selfish thing. I was really expecting to see, you know, but Lord show me where hopeless at this point. Because I'm not seeing that I had different expectations. Yeah. Redeem my expectations, redeem my whole skin.
Tony: All right. Let, let me recap. Let me recap. The 10 forest.
So the 10 words to be filled with the holy spirit, the first one is Jesus. And then number two is scripture. Number three, holiness number four, presence. Number five, faith number six, pray number seven, humility. Number eight, hearing number nine, serve number 10 expectations. Now also, if you're listening to this and you're like, oh, that was really fast.
Don't worry. Go to reclamation podcast.com. We've got the full transcripts there. You can go back and you can take all the notes. We'll make sure we'll link to that in the show notes. So, Dr. B, I do have a question for you yet. You know, it's interesting that we're having this dialogue on what I hope is the tail end of COVID.
Right. And, and I'm, I'm prayerful that it's prayerfully optimistic that it's the tail end of COVID. Why do you think the world needs to be filled with the holy spirit in this season?
Pete: No, my, my, my Tony, you know, I don't want to some pride for a presumptuous as a believer, but I don't understand how people can live without God in general.
Yeah. I don't know how God people are making or without God drew all of this. And I don't think some people are suicide rates are up. Mental health, mental health issues around are on the rise. Like more than ever before. Rates of addiction are up more than ever before. People are angry, angry. You go on social media, you look at the news.
It's just like, there's an outrage. That's it's, it's an unquenchable fire of outrage and anger that no matter what happens, there's no peace. There's no satisfaction. There's no rest. People are in despair. People are desperate. People are, are, are. At their wit's end. Yeah. And nothing is no, no forms of self-medicating from politics on down is working.
Yeah. And I'm really hoping this is a time where people will call on the Lord out of desperation, because I don't know how people are making an again, a lot of people are making it and for the believers, the trials and temptations are so grave. I just feel that things just get narrower and narrower as God is wanting more and more of us and the separation from what is.
Sin, what is darkness and what God has for us is getting greater and greater. And so what I feel it's kind of like, and I'm not an a, an end times person and I don't know the day and our Jesus coming back, I spend very little time on eschatology, but I feel like we're in a season of like the parable of the 10 virgins with the oil in their lamp, we all should be looking for Christ's coming back and, you know, in a hundred years by death or where he comes back, we're going to see Jesus.
I don't know when he's coming back, but I know what we're looking for the second coming. That's what we say in the creed. We look for the resurrection at a dead in life to where the com right. And we're supposed to be filled with the oil. Those virgins were virgins. They were kept spotless from the sins of the world.
And they were filled with the oil, with the holy spirit and they had extra for the journey. You're going to need this for the journey. The journey is rough. The journey is long. Yeah. It's rugged. It's demanding. The trials are, are, are big time. The things I see people going through are just really more than they've ever experienced before as an intercessor and someone who works in spiritual warfare in deliverance, I've never in my 35 years of ministry have never seen such heavy warfare before.
So I know I need to holy spirit more than ever before to get me through on this journey because a lot of oils being burnt up to carry me through and I need oil in reserve. So we need to stay close to the Lord. We need to stay close to Jesus, to continuously be filled with his spirit. He's our sustenance man.
He's he's everything. So I think people need that for the junior. They're not gonna, they're not gonna make it.
Tony: So I know that my listeners are gonna want to connect with you. I know they're gonna want to learn more about your ministry. You're not super active on social media, but you've written some incredible resources, some books out there that are true therapies.
One of my favorites and you've got so many different books. Where can people go to learn more about what you do and how you do it?
Pete: I would invite people. You could actually email me. I'll talk with you personally. P B E L L I N i@united.edu. So my first initial and last name@united.edu, I would love to talk with you personally.
You can get any of my books on amazon.com or any bookseller, because most of the brick and mortar stores, there's not a lot, but the distributors are, they all carry my my, my books or any other online shop for sure you would you would go to, and you can probably just Google my name and you can catch me on just so many different podcasts that I'm not sure.
Tony: And we'll link to all that in the show notes, we'll link to the previous episodes that you've been on. And and we can definitely link to all of that there. So okay. Last question. I always love to ask people, it's an advice question, but you have to give yourself one. Piece of advice. And I'm going to take you back to a very specific time.
So I know that God speaks to you on a really regular basis. And so I'm curious at the end of 2019, right before we really knew anything about the Corona virus. And before we knew about the year ahead and before we knew about the political storm being what it was, if you could go back there and look a younger version of yourself, a young doctor B not really that young, just a couple of years ago, but you know what I mean.
Pete: Couple years ago, doesn't take me into the young kid.
Tony: I was trying to figure out how to say that. Well, and it just didn't come out, but you get the idea. If you could go back prior to 2020 and give yourself one piece of advice, what would it be? And you're not allowed to say invest in Bitcoin.
Pete: It's weird because. A lot of the prophetic voices, most of them, I don't know, one prophetic voice that, that did got 2020, right? Most of them actually said things that was the total opposite. The part of COVID, I didn't prophesize in 2019, I prophesied something similar about 10 years before. And I told persons in my church, we got to start believe in God for healing.
Like we've never believed before because diseases are going to be coming that soon that we have no cure for, and there's not. And they're going to cause worldwide pandemics because there's no resources for them. And we're going to have to start believing in God and walking by faith, just like they do in other countries too, the two thirds world where they don't have the medical resources.
So we're going to face things that our medical resources are not going to be able to resolve. So I remember saying that a while back, but what hit me the year that year, the end of the year was that we're going through a great shaking and leadership was going to be shaking. And this was going to be a time of great repentance and God was going to.
Cause us to be set apart unto him alone, to pray and great grace would be given to us to repent and be delivered of besetting sins in our life. And especially to heal relationships, including marriages and that, and I was ready for that. So we were ready. We prayed, we stayed inside and all of that kind of thing.
And so that worked out great as like a man. I think one thing that I wished I would have known was, and I wish I would have done was spoke up more vocally. I think maybe I had a chance to, but I didn't to speak on more vocally to the church, especially the charismatic church in. Opposition. Now that I look back to a lot of the voices and prophetic words that were not right, not on.
And a lot of people that we're hearing from sources that were not God and not biblical. I like Q Anon and whatnot. There took a lot of people down and hurt the body of Christ and sent a lot of people wayward and it broke my heart. And I wish I would have spoke up. I wish I would've spoke up more about that.
Especially the whole idea to prepare that our king cannot be elected and cannot be removed from often men. And the kingdom that he establishes is a kingdom that begins on the inside of us. It's righteousness, peace, and joy, and a holy spirit. And Jesus is the king of us king of it. And that king and kingdom are not riding on a donkey or an elephant.
Hm. And we needed to hear that message more than ever before this. And we need to hear it now. So I guess those are some of the re the regular regrets I did have. I did have the, the Lord did put upon my heart that Trump would not be elected. I don't know anyone that was speaking those words. And I wanted to say that I knew Biden was going to be present in the Lord, told me not to say anything.
I did not feel led except for my family asked. And I let them know back in February, I felt this and they asked me again, later in fall, are you sure? I said, yeah, that's what I think. That's why I believe I've heard from God, but he's not releasing me to say anything. And I didn't, I didn't give no public words.
Tony: Well, and I, I, what I, what I appreciate about that piece of advice is it's really just, Hey, be courageous, be courageous.
Pete: Which in this day and age, people are afraid to, because it's like, am I going to get canceled? What's going to happen to me and all of that. And a lot of people suffered as because they weren't, they were listening to voices that led them astray.
Yeah. That's good.
Tony: Man, Dr. BI, just appreciate your time. So much. Appreciate your gift to the church and to me and to this podcast community that you're, I just, man, that was, that was a good word. And I know a lot of people needed to hear it. So thank you.
Pete: We, the transmission went well with this snow.
We got here with that snow last night. I'm an allergy sinus person. It just blew me away. And so I had some cough drops before I came. I'm like, man, my voice is getting, listen.
Tony: I'm telling you if people didn't want to, if I didn't hear you it's because they weren't listening. Not because not because anything you did.
I, but again, I just appreciate your generosity and your gift.
Pete: Blessings to you and blessings to all the people that are hearing that, that God will bless them literally through anything that we said today to may benefit them.
Tony: Amen.
Like I said, Dr. Bellini is such a gift. I love the way he talks about Jesus, scripture, holiness, so many good things in there.
And I know that if you lean into these things, God will continue to do some amazing things and YouTube will be spirit-filled as always. I'm so thankful for you being part of this community. Make sure you hit that subscribe button, leave a rating or review on iTunes, and maybe share this episode with a friend, somebody who wants to learn a little bit more about the holy spirit.
I know that as we continue to lean into this, God will do some amazing things. So remember, if you want to follow Jesus, you must be willing to move. See you guys next week.
